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Should we allow name changing on the server?
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PostSubject: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:57 pm

I suggest turning off the /rpname command in-game. It allows people to hide.

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12/25/09 07:26:22   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) has joined the game
12/25/09 07:26:23   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) spawned
12/25/09 07:27:25   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /votecp
12/25/09 07:27:25   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) changed to Civil Protection
12/25/09 07:27:33   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:27:37   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /chief
12/25/09 07:27:37   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) changed to Civil Protection Chief
12/25/09 07:30:26   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:29   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:34   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:37   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:40   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:43   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:48   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:51   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:30:55   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /chief
12/25/09 07:31:00   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /votecp
12/25/09 07:31:01   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) changed to Civil Protection
12/25/09 07:31:04   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /x
12/25/09 07:31:10   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:31:23   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Your Mom
12/25/09 07:31:32   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Your mom
12/25/09 07:31:37   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Mom
12/25/09 07:31:48   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:31:56   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:32:05   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:32:28   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:32:36   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:32:40   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name'
12/25/09 07:32:44   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name
12/25/09 07:32:52   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:32:57   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) disconnected
12/25/09 07:33:28   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999) has joined the game
12/25/09 07:33:28   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999) spawned
12/25/09 07:33:45   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:34:15   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadbandbandit
12/25/09 07:34:46   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /name Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:35:04   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /rpname Broadband Bandit
12/25/09 07:35:12   @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999) disconnected
12/25/09 07:35:42   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) has joined the game
12/25/09 07:35:42   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) spawned
12/25/09 07:35:53   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /gundealer
12/25/09 07:35:53   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) changed to Gun Dealer
12/25/09 07:37:37   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:37:40   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:37:43   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 07:47:44   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:47:55   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title THIS SERVER SUCKS!!!
12/25/09 07:47:57   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:47:59   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:48:06   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title THIS SERVER SUCKS
12/25/09 07:48:08   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:48:12   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:48:22   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title THIS IS THE GAYEST SERVER EVER
12/25/09 07:48:23   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:49:19   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:49:40   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title REPENT!!! Go to a Noxious Net Server!
12/25/09 07:49:42   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:49:45   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:49:58   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title NOXIOUS NET OWNS!!!
12/25/09 07:50:00   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:50:19   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /write Worst server ever!
12/25/09 07:50:48   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:51:07   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title LEET'S LOUNGE AND MOPE CHOW SUCK!
12/25/09 07:51:09   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:51:14   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:51:34   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title MOPE CHOW IS STUPID!
12/25/09 07:51:36   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:51:44   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:51:51   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title GO NOXIOUS NET!
12/25/09 07:51:53   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:51:55   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:52:02   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:55:33   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:55:57   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /title DEATH TO LEET'S LOUNGE
12/25/09 07:55:59   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:56:08   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 07:56:10   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 08:10:18   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 08:10:20   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277) has joined the game
12/25/09 08:10:20   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277) spawned
12/25/09 08:10:21   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277) disconnected
12/25/09 08:10:34   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /buy Sniper rifle
12/25/09 08:10:37   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277) has joined the game
12/25/09 08:10:37   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277) spawned
12/25/09 08:10:43   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /buy Pump shotgun
12/25/09 08:11:10   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /toggleown
12/25/09 08:11:23   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /DROP
12/25/09 08:11:28   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:31   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:33   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:37   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:40   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:44   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:47   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:51   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:55   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:11:58   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /drop
12/25/09 08:12:01   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): /citizen
12/25/09 08:12:01   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) changed to Citizen
12/25/09 08:12:11   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277) spawned
12/25/09 08:12:24   revenge. Fade (STEAM_0:0:74277): // whats with the rops
12/25/09 08:12:32   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999): // some noob was on before
12/25/09 08:13:23   Broadband Bandit (STEAM_0:0:18448999) disconnected

As you can see in the above log...

12/25/09 07:33:28 @nonymous (STEAM_0:0:18448999) has joined the game

changed his name to broadband bandit. And well ya... he named doors and what-not then blaimed it on a minge earlier

So this is why i suggest disallowing rp name in the server - so noone can hide.

I'm leaving the decision up to you guys :) .
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:02 pm

I've never seen that privvy abused hahaha, yeah I think we can go without it.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:09 pm

I wouldn't use an rp name if it weren't for that feature.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:11 pm

Bye bye /rpname.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:11 pm

Make sure you vote. There is a poll at the top of the page. Can you see it?

Spades wrote:
I wouldn't use an rp name if it weren't for that feature.

Oh and i meant just forget about rp names. If we do get rid of /rpname.


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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:14 pm

So we're taking away RP names completely just because one person abused it?
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:17 pm

How do we know if just one person abused it? Anyone could do this at anytime. Also, since this post has been made, anyone on the forums who reads this can know how to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:24 pm

People can abuse anything. They can use props to surf, block, DM, and even try to crash the server, but we still have them. They can use guns to DM the shit out of anybody, but we still have them. They can use /votecop to arrest/kill whoever they want, but we still have CPs. They can use the many exploits in Dark RP to fuck everyone over, but we still use Dark RP. We can't just take away everything that has the potential to be abused, we would end up getting rid of everything. Plus we need RP names. You have no idea how many people join with names copy and pasted from charmap that nobody can read.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:28 pm

I could understand that, but all those little things like DMing can be handled with a simple kick or ban. Dark RP has many flaws with counter actions. Demote is for getting rid of cops that abuse stunstick and arrest stick. Demote spammers get vote kicked or banned. Props have a HUGE rp use in Garry's Mod. It's one of the main reasons Garry's Mod is used for RP. Physics. If you don't want physics in RP, switch to TSRP. But when you start getting names mixing and stuff you could end up banning the wrong guy. I'd much rather keep RP names, but this is something that might just cross the line.

EDIT: We should just kick anyone with names that are just random symbols and stuff. If they come in with a name like that, they are expecting not to get kicked because you can't type it in.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:30 pm

If that starts happening can't you just temporarily set rp_names to 0 ingame and see who's doing it?
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:31 pm

If that's the case, keep RP names. That solves my one issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:34 pm

Well ban him for abuse.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:34 pm

All of the above that patient has listed can easily be found out by a admin that has eye balls.

This on the other hand is hard to figure out. You can't see through the name unless you know and check their steam id. Knowing that its a friend of yours can completely change how you view their actions. For instance, you, patient, might let another friend admin dm up a storm (even though your not supposed to i'm sure this could happen) and this person could be a name impersonator.

I'm trying to say... do you really want some minge to come in with an admin's name and be able to kill lots of people with nothing said against him out of the fear of kick?
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:36 pm

MopeChow wrote:
All of the above that patient has listed can easily be found out by a admin that has eye balls.

This on the other hand is hard to figure out. You can't see through the name unless you know and check their steam id. Knowing that its a friend of yours can completely change how you view their actions. For instance, you, patient, might let another friend admin dm up a storm (even though your not supposed to i'm sure this could happen) and this person could be a name impersonator.

I'm trying to say... do you really want some minge to come in with an admin's name and be able to kill lots of people with nothing said against him out of the fear of kick?

ULX WHO, the one thing that gets rid of fakers.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:37 pm

can any player use ulx who? When I was just a player/ass admin I never could... but I think it was just a conflicting mod (PCMod).

Just checked ingame and yes, they can.


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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:37 pm

MopeChow wrote:
All of the above that patient has listed can easily be found out by a admin that has eye balls.

This on the other hand is hard to figure out. You can't see through the name unless you know and check their steam id. Knowing that its a friend of yours can completely change how you view their actions. For instance, you, patient, might let another friend admin dm up a storm (even though your not supposed to i'm sure this could happen) and this person could be a name impersonator.

I'm trying to say... do you really want some minge to come in with an admin's name and be able to kill lots of people with nothing said against him out of the fear of kick?

If it was my friend, chances are I'm going to have them on my friends list. And if I shift tabbed and saw that they weren't in gmod, I would know it was an impersonator.

Also yes we have ulx who.


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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:38 pm

You can now. I remember earlier you couldn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:40 pm

thepeople wrote:
MopeChow wrote:
All of the above that patient has listed can easily be found out by a admin that has eye balls.

This on the other hand is hard to figure out. You can't see through the name unless you know and check their steam id. Knowing that its a friend of yours can completely change how you view their actions. For instance, you, patient, might let another friend admin dm up a storm (even though your not supposed to i'm sure this could happen) and this person could be a name impersonator.

I'm trying to say... do you really want some minge to come in with an admin's name and be able to kill lots of people with nothing said against him out of the fear of kick?

ULX WHO, the one thing that gets rid of fakers.

What if hes not an admin? Just well respected? (So respected that they could possibly get you banned by asking.)

Your still way less likely to report.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:46 pm

You can change your steam name too, just like you can change your RP name. Getting rid of RP names does nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:46 pm

MopeChow wrote:
thepeople wrote:
MopeChow wrote:
All of the above that patient has listed can easily be found out by a admin that has eye balls.

This on the other hand is hard to figure out. You can't see through the name unless you know and check their steam id. Knowing that its a friend of yours can completely change how you view their actions. For instance, you, patient, might let another friend admin dm up a storm (even though your not supposed to i'm sure this could happen) and this person could be a name impersonator.

I'm trying to say... do you really want some minge to come in with an admin's name and be able to kill lots of people with nothing said against him out of the fear of kick?

ULX WHO, the one thing that gets rid of fakers.

What if hes not an admin? Just well respected?

Your still way less likely to report.

If you feel like someone is being a minge then you report them, it doesn't matter who they are. Austin is an admin, people know that, and krzygrasshopper reported him anyway because he felt like he was admin abusing. Actually, lots of us have been reported in the past, by people who knew very well that we were admins. What's the point of the report section if people are going to be afraid to report anyone they recognize?

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(So respected that they could possibly get you banned by asking.)

What admin would ban someone simply because they were asked to?
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:54 pm

A couple days back maybe the day before christmas eve. Some person abused this too. Kept coming on and changing his name. Then DMed. The hard part about getting rid of him was that his steam name had a bunch of symbols. All he did /name call it 003064698 or something along the lines and kept DMing. I think a map change would do better to get rid of these folks.
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:22 pm

Keep the rp name as spade said they still can change their name. Also shouldn't we ban him?
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PostSubject: Re: Name Posers.   Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:26 pm

Fade wrote:
Keep the rp name as spade said they still can change their name. Also shouldn't we ban him?

ban anonymouS? i did.
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